| bookofjude @ 2003-08-06 18:13:00 |
Snape is in Germany
Or so it seems.
Does anyone here speak German?
edit: He sends Lupin lederhosen. XD
edit 2: Translation here.
Comments:
| tabiji @ August 6 2003, 01:16:01 UTC |
From freetranslation.com :
Who rides so late through night and wind? 06 August at 0046
potions_mast music: sounds
I have nothing importantly to say over the birthday celebration Dumbledores. The supper was tolerable to be the meeting lengthy, and the honor magic too drunk best. People too much lustful I shätzte the disagreeable attention by much, and I have not early take leave. Because-best was, when I bring mu-te of all in order before I abfehrend mu-te.
Munich is would remind me like I of it of a childhood holiday - loudly, hoarsely, and overfeed. My breakfast could maintain have expressed a little country or a considerable country house, and as I discontent, went the large and efficient woman who served me, for giving further a vehement presentation on correct nourishment away. Finally I ate rest, only to it, and I named the resulting Bauchsmerzen "Helga," in its honor.
My tasks this morning took me to a place, that competed with Azkaban in the desolation. There no Dementors were, were would echo it however necessarily not, for one to become that through the ruins embarrassed despair of, what once one many methods of the Muggle story for that end gangs was its even. The methods the Muggles that was used to hold around its prisoners to behave, become obsolete determined at best, but effectively: electrified fences, general execution, medical experimenting.
It is incredible that these creatures the Hexerei even badly possibly were able to see and magic as in itself, in view of its characteristic rechstschaffene activities toward of that each that its.
My research concluded, I went of that assembly plotted quickly and went to Berlin away. The arrangement that I remain for the night therein, is not a more desirable lodging. I was forced to wait, during the devices owner little of the lights and of the telephone removed; it explained it away as "kah-geh-beh bug." I am not to believe so stupidly that something will contain that of the minisculte lights and the directions, an insect is. I can speculate with respect to only, what have type of the use the Muggles for such things. A simple blocking charm in the room as it gone was, caused a satisfactory direction of the security against somehow more of that "bug."
Supper tonight protected only somewhat smaller than a breakfast; I assume, died that only a half dozen of animal for that. I was is assured myself however gifted with a goblet of Glühwein, because it cool outside, and the young woman who Kit hei_t--that this would do well in order to relieve the shower. To its credit, it has exactly.
I have stroll time for through the city before I entirely would leave Germany. I don't have to say is having to travel that alone far more comfortable, a over enthusiastic young witch, chatter do not worry eat find, over what also always through its intellect exceeds, and I mu_ over little creatures for Lilitou to that. I mu_ errinern, to Chang write worries me, and certainly there_ it correctly for it. I do not want to find zuruckkommen in Hogwarts at the beginning of the half year, to an undernourished felidae lamia.
In the remaining, Lupin, I, a leather pair of pants send you when you can utilize certainly it.
Entry completely
| swallowaspider @ August 6 2003, 01:16:09 UTC |
You can get it translated at altavista.com. Though their translator blows hard, it'll give you a vague idea.
The general gist is that he's in Munich, and it reminds him of his childhood hols, and he didn't enjoy Dumbledore's party, and he's having trouble finding foord for Lilitou, and something at the end that translated roughly as "Lupin, I am sending you some leather pants, for when you will have use for them." That could be a mistake on the software's part.
| notapipe @ August 6 2003, 01:17:24 UTC |
Beat me to it. And thanks to the people with babelfish and it's ilk, but they're still... mergh.
(parent)| mimulus_arbutus @ August 6 2003, 22:26:37 UTC den erlenkonig mit kron und schweif.... |
agh, EVIL! we had to memorize that whole poem auf deutsch in highschool. and one about lorelei.
strangely, it's been ages, but my german is not as bad as i had thought, i actually understood lots of the post. the things we remember....
| grammaravenger @ August 6 2003, 01:19:14 UTC |
DEUTSCH! Wheeee! <3
I speak German, but... not very well. :P I'm attempting to read it in German just for fun so I'll try my hand at a translation if there are no better German speakers on. (I'm probably better than Babelfish, at any rate. I certainly hope so.)
(I'm not a newbie but I never post so I might as well be, I suppose. Hi.)
| grammaravenger @ August 6 2003, 01:45:16 UTC |
Ha, okay, don't wait up for my translation. :P My vocabulary is very small and sad and I have to look lots of stuff up. (I really ought to use an online dictionary, it would go a bit faster, but I do so like my little book.) Not to mention I'm also talking to people and... yeeeah, I'm going really slowly.
While I'm posting, here's my version of the first paragraph. (I have a little more than this but haven't finished the second paragraph yet. XD)
"I have nothing important to say about Dumbledore's birthday party. The dinner was bearable, the meeting lengthy, and the magician of honor too drunk for his own good. I did not treasure the undear attention of far too many lecherous people, and I retired early. The best of it was that I had to put everything in order before I had to depart." (*if he meant abfahren... as far as I can tell, abfehrend isn't a word.)
| tabiji @ August 6 2003, 01:22:02 UTC |
Ah, damn! I was hoping we would see the leather pants!
(parent)| tabiji @ August 6 2003, 01:27:45 UTC |
Since Sirius and Remus don't appear to even be speaking at this point, I have a sneaking suspicion that we could see a lot of Remus/Severus hints before we see Sirius/Remus again.
As much as I'd love to see Prof Snape get some, I can't see that as being anything but bad for all three of them :(
| lore @ August 6 2003, 08:31:14 UTC |
As much as I'd love to see Prof Snape get some, I can't see that as being anything but bad for all three of them :(
Some of us ascribe to a different opinion on where Severus fits in with Lupin and Black. :D
love, lore
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aurorasinger @ August 6 2003, 07:10:44 UTC |
Erm, sorry, but what exactly is (are?) lederhosen?
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aurorasinger @ August 6 2003, 15:44:25 UTC |
=Þ yeah sorry about that. i am a blind idiot and missed that.... thanks though!
(parent)| notapipe @ August 6 2003, 03:18:21 UTC |
O. M. G.
*gets a sex change operation so he can properly fangirl you*
*finds out you have to do this silly live as your desired gender thing BEFORE the op*
*fanboys*
| tabiji @ August 6 2003, 03:29:47 UTC |
*Resuscitates 
bobbypin, smooches bookofjude, and hands notapipe his "pipe" back.*
Mwah!
| tabiji @ August 6 2003, 07:51:23 UTC |
Gracious!
*Blushes at aurorasinger* Thanky :)
*Collects noirenails and loony_moony from the floor.*
I was so hoping someone would notice the tan!
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Anonymous @ August 6 2003, 10:54:08 UTC |
This is so my new desktop.
- Snape's player, appalled and disturbed
| tabiji @ August 6 2003, 21:22:33 UTC |
Hmmph.
Well, I suppose it is better than "Mugglehumper". But I really really wanted to be "The Official Unofficial Man-Nip Master".
| corsiva @ August 6 2003, 08:50:36 UTC i agree |
I don't feel like dying repeatedly today...I think the Draco in leather images shall be kept at bay...but wow Remus in them..growl
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dry_your_eyes @ August 6 2003, 02:41:38 UTC |
great exchange, as usual.
but is it me or is Snape not supportive enough?
i hope Remus will value his life in DW more after his distress in TLC!!
| suaine @ August 6 2003, 05:18:47 UTC |
Yeah, he said he'd like to be a pretty princess - but then he also wants to "have gender with [your] llama", which I assume was supposed to mean sex with a llama.
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dry_your_eyes @ August 6 2003, 02:11:20 UTC |
I found it very amusing:
Snape tells about "kah-geh-beh bug" in his Berlin appartment.
I was firstly highly surprised to read it but then rememebrered - it's not 2003 in NA. Germany was united in 1991, so Snape can well face the traces of the local soviet paranoia (or better to say KGB paranoya)
I respect NA players even more each day!
| grammaravenger @ August 6 2003, 03:46:01 UTC |
Unless someone else is working on a translation and didn't post about it, yes, I think so. :) I'm getting majorly distracted and there's no way I'm finishing mine tonight.
(parent)| suaine @ August 6 2003, 03:55:56 UTC |
I'm kind of impressed with it, but it's also obviously not written by a native speaker. Here's the deal:
Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind?
I have nothing important to say about Dumbledore’s birthday party. Dinner was tolerable, the gathering lasted too long, and the wizard of honor was too drunk for his own good. I don’t appreciate the unwelcome Attention of too many lustful people, and I bade farewell early, which was best since I had to get everything in order before I had to leave.
Munich is like I remember it from a childhood holiday – loud, rough and crowded. My breakfast could have sustained a small country or a significant country house, and as I voiced my discontent the large and capable woman who served me continued in a vehement lecture about correct nutrition. Finally I ate to placate her and I named the resulting stomachache “Helga” in her honor.
My tasks this morning took me to a place that rivalled with Azkaban in its wretchedness. There were no dementors, but they weren’t necessary for a [here it gets kind of confusing, but I’m sure it talks about the ruin of a concentration camp – the history of Muggles to destroy themselves]. The Muggles’ methods, that were used to discipline their prisoners were at best out of date, but certainly effective: electric fences, executions and medical experiments.
It’s unbelievable that these creatures could have looked upon witchcraft and magic as something evil in itself, considering their own righteous activity in the direction of “to each his own” [“Jedem das Seine” means “to each his own” but it is also the inscription on the gate of several concentration camps, for example Buchenwald]
Finished with my research I left the site fast and went on to Berlin [lovely city BTW, but doesn’t hold its own against Leipzig … uhm, yeah, back to the program]. The place I was meant to spend the night was not a desirable dwelling. I was forced to wait until the owner removed small devices from the lights and the telephone – he explained them away as KGB bugs [honestly, they would have been StaSi bugs, our own secret agency was amazingly efficient]. I’m not as dumb as to believe that something that’s in lights and electrical conducts could be an insect. I can only speculate what kind of use Muggles have for devices like this. A simple blocking charm after he was gone resulted in a satisfying protection against any more of these “bugs”.
Dinner tonight only seemed marginally smaller than breakfast, I assume that only half a dozen animals died for it. But I was given a cup of “Glühwein” [hot, sweet mixture of red wine, lots of sugar, and usually cinammon], because it was cold outside and the young woman – who was called Kit – assured me that it would be good to get rid of the chill. To her credit, it did precisely that.
I have time to take a walk through the city before I leave Germany. I must say that it is a lot nicer to travel alone than having a overeager witch with you that keeps babbling on about everything that goes through her mind and I don’t have to find little things [as in living creatures] to find for Lilou. I must remember to write Chang to make sure that she takes good care of her [the kitten]. I don’t want to get back to Hogwarts to find a malnourished felidae lamia.
Lupin, I’m sending you “Lederhosen” [leather pants, assuming he was in Bavaria it could be the traditional type – he might just go for the usual black calf leather sexy type]
Entry complete.
Also, the title is from a famous epic poem that *everyone* learns at school in Germany. It's about a dark night and a father who tries to get his child home - but he doesn't succed and the sick child dies in his arms. It's really gothic and cool, but school children hate it.
| suaine @ August 6 2003, 04:21:26 UTC |
Yeah, it's a sloppy 15 minute job, but I think I caught the general sentiment.
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dry_your_eyes @ August 6 2003, 04:35:38 UTC |
Also, the title is from a famous epic poem that *everyone* learns at school in Germany.
i must say everyone learns it at school here too. i find it rather nice
wonderful job, thank you. I couldn't get some parts first cause i'm [yet] not so good in german :)
| suaine @ August 6 2003, 04:45:21 UTC |
The poem is pretty cool. I'm not a fan of Goethe's prose or drama work (although I prefer "Faust" to "Die Leiden des jungen Werther" any day) but his poems are top notch. I always thought Schiller had a better hand for the epic poems but "Erlkönig" in its gothic beauty is definitely and exception.
(parent)| bookofjude @ August 6 2003, 04:50:22 UTC |
Do we know which concentration camp he is talking about?
(parent)| bookofjude @ August 6 2003, 04:51:03 UTC |
Also, thanks for the grammatically correct translation. The copy I managed to procure was a mix of broken english and German, and was rather hard to understand. :)
(parent)| suaine @ August 6 2003, 05:14:21 UTC |
Translation of a language you're not entirely comfortable with is hard at the best of times - but with a text like that one [funny, too funny] where there are several grammar and spelling mistakes a translation can be a pain in the ass.
(parent)| bookofjude @ August 6 2003, 05:40:19 UTC |
The closest thing to German that I've ever studied was Old English, and I shall now laugh because they're quite the same and quite as different as English and German are. But yes, I do understand what you mean. Translation like that can be a very large pain in the arse.
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Anonymous @ August 11 2003, 02:21:34 UTC |
It's very hard. Especially translating something full of idiomatic speaking from your native language into another one. (So no, I'm not a native German speaker in the least, just doing a favour for someone in translating the post). I'm sure there were mistakes, what is reassuring from reading the comments here is that there is that it was in fact recognisable, and there were not nearly as many or as laughable ones as I was afraid of. ;)
(parent)| suaine @ August 6 2003, 05:02:35 UTC |
Buchenwald, most definitely - which is interesting, because it was a concentration camp and not a death camp. I've been there three times and it's very desolate. The barracks have been torn down completely and most houses are reproductions - the most terrifying thing about it is the sheer size of it, and the numbers of people who died there (mostly from exhaustion).
(parent)| suaine @ August 6 2003, 05:06:52 UTC |
It's Buchenwald alright, I remember now.
I think each camp had a different "motto" at the gate. One I remember, I think from Theresienstädt, which is another concentration, is "Arbeit macht frei" [Work makes free] both are incredibly ironic and designed to disillusion and humiliate the prisoners.
| notapipe @ August 6 2003, 05:21:00 UTC |
"Arbeit Macht Frei" was at both Dachau and Auchwitz.
(parent)| bookofjude @ August 6 2003, 05:21:12 UTC |
*nods* The motto on Dachau is also Arbeit macht frei, if I remember correctly. notapipe did give me a link to a picture of the front gate but now I've misplaced it...
So it looks like he was in Buchenwald then. Interesting...
| bookofjude @ August 6 2003, 05:17:08 UTC |
Yeah, notapipe, tabiji and I were just discussing that. Dachau is closer to Munich, but the gate inscription isn't right... and yes, I think the concentration camps were...
No, I don't know what they were. It certainly wasn't human.
| suaine @ August 6 2003, 05:25:44 UTC |
I think what got to me most was the crematory. They had this huge cellar with huge hooks at the walls - and you can pretty much think what they hooked up there.
The concentration camps were basically a way to get rid of people who might be dangerous or just not welcome in the tight society the Nazis created, it had the "side benefit" of extremely cheap labor. The death camps were one big crematory.
Buchenwald has this exhibition of art created by prisoners during and after their time in there. Some of the pictures still haunt me today.
I'll give you and example of just how inhuam it was. The camp director had a zoo for his children, a small thing but easily visible from the camp. The prisoners could actually see these exotic animals, watch how they were fed while the prisoners went hungry. The director also had lamp shades and book bindings made of human skin. Human skin. That about got me puking the first time I was there.
| bookofjude @ August 6 2003, 05:38:58 UTC |
I'm shuddering know: to think that people could be so... inhumane, against everything that they once believed and accepted was normal. Their ability to understand what was socially defined as right and wrong seemed to have been swayed by what one man with hegemony behind him defined as right and wrong.
I think it was despicable.
I'm now off to utilize the toilet.
| tjstein @ August 6 2003, 06:59:20 UTC |
What the hell would Snape look for in a concentration camp for goodness sakes?
Perhaps he's looking for something related to Grindenwald and the Dark Lord?
| tjstein @ August 6 2003, 07:14:58 UTC |
Right, because Dumbledore reveals every detail when asked? LOL
(parent)| tjstein @ August 6 2003, 10:25:31 UTC |
Well then, perhaps Snape is looking for something that Dumbledore had directed him to find?
(parent)| notapipe @ August 6 2003, 04:13:59 UTC |
Not totally related, but everyone should check out Snape's sidebar. V. cool.
(parent)| babytyggeryss @ August 6 2003, 06:59:11 UTC |
I think the poem reminds Snape of himself; the seduction of the innocent by Evil.
What lies did Voldemort whisper in the young Snape's ear to get him to join him?
I don't think we will ever know.
| notapipe @ August 6 2003, 04:23:14 UTC |
Can someone familiar with Berlin (I'm just GUESSING it's Berlin, it may be from some other city) say what Snape's icon is?
(parent)| suaine @ August 6 2003, 04:33:42 UTC |
Columna triumphal, or victory column (Siegessäule in Germen) - it's one of the big monuments of Berlin.
| suaine @ August 6 2003, 04:46:27 UTC |
*blushes* Glad to help. Interesting tidbit - the monument is site of the yearly "Loveparade".
(parent)| la_trix @ August 6 2003, 11:46:10 UTC |
I saw it as a nod to Lupin, who recently recalled the Siegessäule from his trip to Berlin when he was 16.
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Anonymous @ August 6 2003, 05:31:36 UTC |
Oops, I'm a bit lost-- what about all the "EVERY..."-thing?
(parent)| snowballjane @ August 6 2003, 05:54:07 UTC |
Well, either Germany's the last stop, or there's another word to follow.
(parent)| babytyggeryss @ August 6 2003, 07:01:36 UTC History of Oppression |
Does anyone know the history of the places Snape has visited? Germany (WWII and before), Russia (See Russian History), and Egypt (See Bible) have all been oppressive at some point in history and I wanted to know if this trend was repeated in any of the other countries.
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Anonymous @ August 6 2003, 11:02:16 UTC |
I may play Snape, but I'm not cruel. Here's the actual post:
I have nothing of consequence to say of Dumbledore's birthday celebration. The dinner was fair, the congregation tedious, and the wizard of honour far too inebriated for his own good. I did not appreciate the unwanted attentions I recieved from far too many lecherous sorts and was forced to take my leave rather early, which was for best considering that I needed to get my affairs in order before departing one more on my journey.
Munich is as I remember it from a boyhood holiday - loud, raucous and overfed. My breakfast could have sustained a small country or sizeable village, and when I expressed discontent the large and powerful woman who served me proceeded to give forth a vehement lecture on proper nutrition. In the end I ate in an effort to quiet her, and the resulting indigestion I have elected to name "Helga," in her honour.
My duties this morning took me to a place that rivaled Azkaban in desolation. There were no Dementors present, however they were not necessary for there to be a pall of despair threaded through the ruins of what was once one of Muggle history's many methods for eradicating their own. The methods the Muggles employed to keep their prisoners in line were archaic at best but no less effective: electrified fences, public hangings, medical experimentation.
It staggers the mind that these creatures could possibly see witchcraft and wizardry as inherently evil in the face of their own righteous activities toward one another.
Having completed my research I left the site quickly and continued to Berlin. The establishment where I have elected to stay for the night is not one of your more desirable lodgings. I was forced to wait while the proprietor removed small devices from the light fixtures and telephone; he explained them away as "kay-gee-bee bugs." I am not so stupid as to believe that anything comprised of minisculte lights and wires is any sort of insect. I can only speculate as to what sort of use the Muggles have for such things. A simple blocking charm in the room once he left created a satisfactory sense of security against any more of those "bugs."
Dinner this evening seemed only slightly smaller than breakfast, I suspect that only half a dozen animals perished to create it. I was, however, gifted with a goblet of Glühwein, as it is somewhat brisk outside and the young lady assured me that this would do well to relieve the chill. To her credit, it did just that.
I have time for a stroll through the city before I take my leave of Germany altogether. I must say that it is far more pleasant to be travelling alone, as I do not have an over-eager young witch nattering away about whatever subject that passes through her mind, and I do not have to be concerned about finding small creatures for Lilitou to feed upon. I must remember to owl Chang and see that she is taking proper care of my familiar. I do not want to return to Hogwarts at the start of term to an underfed felidae lamia.
Incidentally - Lupin, I am sending you a pair of Lederhosen as I daresay you may find some use for them.
Entry completed.
- Snape's player
| suaine @ August 6 2003, 12:25:23 UTC |
Heh, pretty close to what I thought. Have you learned German in school, by any chance? There were some mistakes in there (the paragraph about Buchenwald was pretty jumbled) but I was really impressed. Especially with your choice of title ;)
(parent)| bookofjude @ August 6 2003, 15:56:28 UTC |
And you had to post it while I was in bed. Thanks a tonne, though! *reads it* Makes quite a bit of sense now, to understand what exactly Snape meant...
(parent)| aome @ August 7 2003, 03:15:40 UTC |
*feels proud* I got *most* of that. I was missing what the *heck* the KGB stuff was about, and a line or two of detail here and there, but I got most of it. In fact, I was howling last night over naming the indigestion "Helga".
You rock.
