| silveryouko @ 2003-11-16 12:40:00 |
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Mood: 
anxious
Oh. My. God.
What on earth happened??
Comments:
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Anonymous @ November 16 2003, 09:46:26 UTC |
I got very upset when I read what Remus wrote. :-(
Poor Remus.
It has to do with his relationship with Snape.
What the hell did Hermione do??!
| hepcatpixie @ November 16 2003, 09:52:31 UTC |
I think that I might actually cry.
This is so devastating.
I hope theories are correct and Snape really was under a spell.
| hepcatpixie @ November 16 2003, 11:36:04 UTC |
Yes, I believe so. That he tested the potion himself and turned all wacky.
(parent)| dragynville @ November 16 2003, 10:34:47 UTC |
But if he was under a spell, then he would've been under it since April wouldn't he? And that would put his whole relationship with Remus in a questionable light. Oh dear, maybe that's what Remus meant by I thought it actually meant something.
So now I suppose he'll go away long enough to get over his feelings for Snape, return, and get back together with Sirius who will have grown up in the meantime.
| hepcatpixie @ November 16 2003, 10:43:52 UTC |
So now I suppose he'll go away long enough to get over his feelings for Snape, return, and get back together with Sirius who will have grown up in the meantime.
Oh god, I hope that doesn't happen. I really dig Snape/Lupin. It's probably my favorite couple on NA to date.
| dragynville @ November 16 2003, 11:29:32 UTC |
They have been a fascinating couple but, outside of NA, I've found I'm still very much about the Blupin. NA has made Snupin both palatable and believable, but I fear it's time has come. :(
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hezzabeth @ November 17 2003, 01:18:26 UTC |
But Blupin is so horribly obvious, I always find myself rooting for the unusual couple who every one just dos'nt assume will get togethor.
With Remus and Sirius they've loved each other since they were school kids so the romance is over before its started but with snape and lupin theres so much more to cover.
I'm really upset about this.
| dragynville @ November 17 2003, 06:38:52 UTC |
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't want the Snupin to end, but NA seems to be doing it anyway. :(
I like Blupin outside of NA because there they haven't loved each other forever. (Well, Remus has probably loved Sirius forever, while Sirius was crushing on James. Speaking canonically, that is.)
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hezzabeth @ November 17 2003, 15:01:48 UTC |
I know, I've read some Blupin outside of NA but I've always been drawn to the whole Snape/Lupin thing. I Just cant believe that their going to end such a great relationship before it's even really started.
(parent)| adrienneblack @ November 16 2003, 10:53:54 UTC |
I'm so hoping that Sirius and Remus do get back together. I know that Sirius made mistakes but I can't help shipping him with Remus.
I suppose the fact that I want this to lead to Sirius/Remus means I'm not quite as upset about it as everyone else. Of course I am horribly worried about what Remus has agreed to do.
| dragynville @ November 16 2003, 11:24:49 UTC |
I know, their love is so should have been. (I need to make that into an icon.) Even in canon. :(
Well, maybe it'll turn out that Sirius was under the spell and he won't have any "growing up" to do after all. And perhaps Remus and Snape had a nasty falling out over that. So now, Remus is going away for a bit, both hurt and confused (and a little bit guilty because that's his nature).
| dragynville @ November 16 2003, 14:29:45 UTC |
Well, it would have to have happened when Hermione brewed the thing right? Was that in April? Somebody said April. Anyway, the real question would be when did Sirius suddenly start sniffing around Lucius? Because he used to be just as anti-Lucius as Remus and for the same reasons.
(parent)| adrienneblack @ November 16 2003, 14:13:56 UTC |
That would make a great icon. Oh, theirloveissocanon.
That would be wonderful. Not that Remus feels hurt of course, but that Sirius doesn't have any growing up to do and therefore there is nothing stopping Remus and him from working things out. How could Sirius have been under the spell though? *Is confused*
| dragynville @ November 16 2003, 14:32:41 UTC |
That would depend upon whatever contact there was between Hermione and Sirius (or Sirius and the potion, if it was left somewhere) at the time it was made or shortly thereafter. And whether she took it, or she discarded it, or she forgot to dispose of the rest of it, etc.
(parent)| petitesl @ November 16 2003, 15:10:15 UTC |
But could Sev really have gotten that upset over a Sirius being under a spell? You'd think he'd be almost happy.
(parent)| dragynville @ November 16 2003, 15:41:05 UTC |
Not if it was resposible for his behavior and subsequent breakup with Remus. However, I do find the idea of Snape having been under the effects of a spell/potion more likely, given the evidence.
(parent)| adrienneblack @ November 17 2003, 09:47:23 UTC |
If Snape was bring affected by a spell then it would be explain why Remus was so upset. Not only is Snape being a complete bastard (in my opinion, of course) but it means that everything that happened between them was just a result of the spell.
But then Remus' feelings were still genuine which for me is not good since it gets in the way of a reconciliation between him and Sirius. Not that that looks likely at the moment anyway.
| dragynville @ November 17 2003, 14:31:46 UTC |
But he did admit he'd always be at least a little in love with Sirius. And implied (heavily) that if Sirius would stop being a Lucius-chasing ass, he'd go back to him.
(parent)| maggie_malfoy @ November 16 2003, 09:56:11 UTC |
That last one is very 'meep' worthy. This is going to be a repeat of the angst of August isn't it? I'm not emotionally strong enough!!!
(parent)| imochan @ November 16 2003, 10:00:41 UTC |
Dear lord. It's August Redux.
All together now: "CANNOT COPE."
| maggie_malfoy @ November 16 2003, 10:57:12 UTC |
This will be August on acid! My nerves are freyed enough, damnit!!
(parent)| aquagia @ November 16 2003, 11:40:42 UTC |
August ended FOR A REASON.
I don't think we can handle another month like that. It's like the horrible relative that came to visit. She leaves, and you go "OH THANK EVERYTHING PURE SHES GONE," only to find out she'll be back for Thanksgiving, to hog all the mashed potatoes.
*shakes angry fist*
| imochan @ November 16 2003, 12:13:48 UTC |
The NA!Angst can have my pumpkin pie, but NOBODY touches my mashed potatoes.
(parent)| dr_jekyl @ November 16 2003, 10:37:43 UTC |
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Angst level: 80% and rising.
| woo2step @ November 16 2003, 10:27:37 UTC |
I don't even know what Hermione did, and I kind of want to throttle her for setting these events in motion. Well. We think she did. Perhaps Snape just enjoys making insanely angry posts about anything Hermione does, big or small. Unlikely, but stranger things have happened.
If they're making this to be the definite end of Snape/Lupin, I will be very upset. Sob.
| zorb @ November 16 2003, 10:35:48 UTC |
I can't wait to find out! Fictional lives are ever so much more interesting in the midst of Drama.
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Anonymous @ November 16 2003, 10:39:32 UTC |
Snape is a bastard (http://www.livejournal.com/community/nocturne_alley/211890.html).
(parent)| petitesl @ November 16 2003, 10:43:27 UTC |
Wah. Is it really the end? And here I thought I'd be happy with the end of Snupin. Alas, I must console myself with waffles now.
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queeniefox @ November 16 2003, 11:09:44 UTC |
What the frell is going on????
Sorry, just needed to get that out of my system.
| jacay @ November 16 2003, 11:21:49 UTC |
I find it interesting that, in this post, he "affectionately" calls it Hermione's cock-up. Even if he was being sarcastic there, it shows that he wasn't worried enough not to joke about it, which means that he apparently didn't think it was going to turn into anything horrible, like it has now. And I mentioned this elsewhere, but it's also interesting that this potion thing occurred at about the same time that the Wolfsbane potion thing occurred. Not that that means anything; it's just interesting.
*incoherent*
| lazy_daze @ November 16 2003, 11:48:05 UTC |
Oh my holy hell, what is going on? *WIBBLES* What meant something? It definitely seems to imply his relationship with Snape, seeing as he only wants to talk to Harry or Sirius. Which I suppose bodes well for Remus/Sirius? I don't really care who he ends up with, as long as he's happy *big hugs*
And how long is he going on this mission for? I'm going to get Lupin-withdrawal :((
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Anonymous @ November 16 2003, 11:52:38 UTC |
You know, Snape really is a bastard. As much as I hate the idea of "Snupin", I did not want Remus to hurt anymore. If Snape could take that hurt away, then I was all for it. But no. He has to go and do this. Remus does NOT deserve this. And please, people, some of you say that Sirius is a bastard? Snape is an ass, plain and simple. I will be royally pissed if Remus goes back to Snape. That relationship would never work. Because Snape is a dick.
(parent)| silveryouko @ November 16 2003, 11:59:53 UTC |
No! He didn't mean it! He clearly wasn't in his right mind last night. He was too upset to think straight.
I love Snapie, but even so, I don't think he should be blamed!
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Anonymous @ November 16 2003, 12:41:54 UTC |
Well, who else is to be blamed why Remus is "crushed"? Snape really needs to grow the hell up. I saw someone once say that Sirius isn't ready for a relationship. Yeah right. Snape's little outburst was just too much for me. Remus isn't going to put up with that. People say that he shouldn't put up with Sirius and that Sirius/Remus's relationship was "unhealthy"...would it be any "healthier" with Severus Snape? I know the answer to that question...NO.
(parent)| curious_sofa @ November 16 2003, 12:58:52 UTC |
Oye..first time post, long time reader/lurker.
Why must an outburst of anger from someone suddenly mean they're bad/evil/wrong for someone? It's not like this is a habitual thing from Snape to Lupin. In fact, Lupin's usually exempt from his outbursts when he does have them.
Honestly... we don't know why Snape blew a gasket so let's not burn the Snupin flags and start the Blupin parades just yet.
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Anonymous @ November 16 2003, 13:16:28 UTC |
Snape didn't even say he was freaking sorry. To ANYONE. What a perfectly nice guy.
(parent)| curious_sofa @ November 16 2003, 13:29:01 UTC |
Hey, you never know. Lupin could have given him a wacky venereal disease. Someone Lupin got from Black and therefor Snape has Sirius cooties. eeeeeewwww... I'd be pissed too.
:)
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Anonymous @ November 16 2003, 16:09:01 UTC |
but sirius and severus already had a thing during which they shagged each other silly! so severus would most likely already have sirius cooties. :D (they were pretty cruel to remus back then if i recall correctly, too, so these three seem to be locked in a perpetual threesome of angst.)
- diff. anon.
| lore @ November 16 2003, 12:51:00 UTC |
Did it ever occur to anyone that Lupin is LEAVING SNAPE at a time when Snape might need him? If Snape really is not in his right mind or altered...who is being the bastard?
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love, lore
| petitesl @ November 16 2003, 12:53:17 UTC |
Well his most recent post suggests he wasn't hoping for an end to the relationship, but I can see where you're coming from.
(parent)| woo2step @ November 16 2003, 13:38:02 UTC |
I kind of thought that, too.
It certainly didn't take much for Lupin to decide he was going to accept Dumbledore's assignment, whatever it was. Snape had just told - okay, yelled at - him that he didn't want to see him right then, and Lupin decided to go overboard with the giving of the space.
Don't see it as Lupin being a bastard, though. At that moment, it seemed that he was just shocked because Snape hasn't spoken to him with real anger in ages, especially not since they've been together.
I feel sorry for them both, I think. And boy, incoherency is fun!
| snowballjane @ November 16 2003, 14:31:22 UTC |
Er, quite. I'll admit to suffering an unhealthy dose of Snape-bias here but:
1. The poor guy's been working non-stop on this for days and like anyone intensely concentrating on a project has probably got a little brain-addled. Plus if the potion really has affected the health, safety or emotional well-being of anyone he cares for then a bit of yelling at the student responsible doesn't seem out of line.
2. Sirius has continually been out of line in publicly reversing Snape's disciplinary decisions. Yes, he's right in this case that Snape's gone OTT, but no-one has ever pulled Black up on it before and he does frankly deserve to be yelled at.
3. Lupin, blesshisfurrylittlepaws, is rubbish at being yelled at. Crumbs, me and my husband yell far worse at each other occasionally, and neither of us ever goes off in a snit on a dangerous mission.
| snowballjane @ November 17 2003, 09:34:53 UTC |
My Snape-bias is currently on overdrive. Especially as most everyone in N_A world is ganging up on Snape and rushing to comfort Remus when we have to assume most of them know as little about what's freaked him out as we do.
We know (from his denial that he was worried) that he'd been worrying about this for days. And I can't help feeling his driving Lupin away was totally deliberate and may have been in a (misguided?) attempt to protect him. From something.
::worries about 
potions_master::
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childofatlantis @ November 16 2003, 12:55:29 UTC |
Probably this has nothing to do with anything.... but the other thing that happened in April was that Remus transformed for his DADA class, and Snape, while complaining of lack of sleep, administered a potion of some kind (pain relief?) to Lupin in wolf form. Discuss.
(parent)| jacinthsong @ November 16 2003, 13:18:45 UTC |
Y'know, as someone who loves the R/S pairing I should be excited about the reconcilation possibilities here, but all I can do is wibble for Remus. Poor guy on his own again; maybe it's because I started watching NA quite recently, but apart from anything else Remus/Severus has been so much more interesting here than Remus/Sirius.
Meep on toast with soft-boiled eggs.
| acetal @ November 16 2003, 13:57:08 UTC |
Personally, I'm betting on Hermione having made a love potion. And Snape being affected not by drinking it, but simply by having breathed in the fumes.
If that's the case, did Hermione breathe it in too?
| oconel @ November 16 2003, 14:03:16 UTC |
I think that's a good theory... This is such a mess!
(parent)| orimornie @ November 16 2003, 14:55:29 UTC |
I have a theory it's a demon....
Sorry, couldn't resist. But yes, when I read Snape's post "I cannot have", that's what occured to me. But then again, I have a dirty mind...
| vassilissa @ November 17 2003, 02:52:30 UTC Re: *laughs* |
But that's ridiculous, 'cause witches they were persecuted, Wiccan, good, and love the earth and woman power, and I'll be over here.
(parent)| dragynville @ November 16 2003, 14:41:01 UTC |
Well, that would certainly explain Remus' 'crushed' post if Snape was under a love potion all this time and has now come out of it. :( The question is, is Snape being a relieved ass about it, or is he still interested in Remus? My guess would be the first, judging by Remus' post, but perhaps absence will make the heart grow fonder.
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hobaggins @ November 16 2003, 15:04:07 UTC |
Maybe this had something to do with why she and Ron broke up? Back in the day? OR WHATEVER HAPPENED.
*is missing something important*
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Anonymous @ November 16 2003, 19:00:20 UTC |
That's what I've been thinking about too. Hermione went out with Lisa, Ernie and Justin on Halloween and got in trouble and didn't seem too bothered by it, which is unusual for her to do on her own. At least it strikes me that way. Maybe she made the love potion on accident and now she likes Justin or Ernie. I wish Hermioen would post more.
(parent)| blankcanvas @ November 16 2003, 15:05:16 UTC Hm |
You sound like you know something we don't know. *suspicious*
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hobaggins @ November 16 2003, 15:13:01 UTC |
Hahahaha.
YES. *puts on her Tre-law-ney hat*
I See it clearly. Ron is in love with Draco... or is that The Notter I'm seeing..... he arranged a tryst, but screwed up and wound up having his secret rendezvous with Lucius. Hermione bungled a memory charm, and tried to make a potion to boost her concentration so she could figure out how to fix it. She failed and actually created a new potion, that gives her the ability to control puffskeins. So the puffskeins that Snape has been feeding Lilitou and the puffskeins that Lupin was offering the Weasleys have actually been under Hermione's control. (See also the zombie!puffskein incident from during the summer)
[the following two pages have been lost]
And that's all the secrets of NrAged. *polishes crystal ball*
| adrienneblack @ November 16 2003, 14:18:15 UTC |
Awww, poor Harry. This whole thing must be awful for him too.
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ex_orangeglo298 @ November 16 2003, 15:37:46 UTC |
Has anyone else noticed that n_a is like BtVS, in that anytime someone is happy, the happiness gets ripped to horrible unidentifiable shreds that are stomped on and buried where they mold and get dirtier and possibly eaten by various insects and insect-like creatures?
August, then, if we follow this anology, would be like season 7, I think? Or was it season 6?
Anyway... I'm still not clear on what the theories are...
| luna_lg @ November 16 2003, 17:42:58 UTC |
Y'know...that is a VERY good theory...IF they're actually applying that part of OotP in N_A
(parent)| petitesl @ November 16 2003, 17:34:45 UTC |
After (sort of) extensive research. I bring you, Petitesl's not at all comprehensive or relevant list of things that happened in April:
The paper cranes
Lupin begins his Wolfsbane regime earlier than usual to ensure any lingering dementia from the transformation is sufficiently diluted
Sev is convinced of a dark curse on the school
Sirius has a potions question?
Sirius/Looshie flirtage...
Lupin's transformation demonstration
That business with Fred
Sevvie and Sirius get sloshed
| dr_jekyl @ November 16 2003, 21:25:13 UTC |
Glancing at Hermione's journal, I have this to add:
April 11: Hermione first mentions she's "taking up a special project, which [she] expect[s] will be very involved and time-consuming."
April 16th After witnessing Lupin's transformation demonstration, Hermione says "I don't think I'll be pulling a late night in the library tonight... I'm nearly finished with my project, but I feel like curling up in bed with a good book to try and get my mind off things."
Did she actually work on her special project on the 16th? Was the special project actually the wit-sharpening potion? Or is it just coincidence?
| petitesl @ November 16 2003, 21:36:25 UTC |
I don't know, but if she was nearly finished on the 16th its possible that her potion could have been mixed up with whatever Lupin was taking post-transformation.
(parent)| petitesl @ November 16 2003, 22:38:20 UTC |
I don't think this would make sense since its much later but . . . when he was drunk?
(parent)| dr_jekyl @ November 16 2003, 22:20:33 UTC |
Or in/with the The Poena Relever Potion Snape mixed up so that Lupin would stop howling in agony.
Come to think of it, Snape is rather specific about the potion:
"I will go add the queevil quills and stir in a counter-clockwise motion until the liquid has turned ecru, signifying that the brew has reached completion. I shall then take it up in a phial and go to the Hall to silence that dolorous varmint."
I'm still leanining towards believing that someone got bitten by Lupin during that particular transformation. It's possible it was Snape, while trying to give Lupin the pain-reviving potion (whatever possessed him to do that - I don't think Lupin was on Wolfsbane for that particular transformation). However, it appears as though we can account for Snape's where-abouts on most Full Moon nights. And I'm sure he would have noticed something by now, unless his memory has been badly affected somehow.
| petitesl @ November 16 2003, 22:40:22 UTC |
Yeah, somehow I think we would have noticed by now if Sev was a werewolf.
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